S3E8 - Audio Touch & Intuition

In this episode, Jess (The Playful Domme), Lisa (The Poly Wife), and Ella (The Virgin) explore the power of intuitive touch and its profound impact on intimacy and connection. The discussion contrasts traditional, technical methods of touch with intuitive, present-focused approaches. Jess shares her experiences with intuitive bodywork, particularly with women, and how this method has brought deeper healing and pleasure for both the giver and receiver. Lisa and Ella reflect on their own journeys with touch, learning to slow down and connect more deeply with their partners. The episode emphasizes the importance of slowing down, tuning into the body, and communicating needs to create a truly intimate experience.

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🔥SHOW NOTES🔥

[00:00:00] - Introduction to the episode, Jess sets the stage for discussing intuitive touch and its benefits.

[00:02:00] - Jess explains the difference between technical and intuitive approaches to touch and how intuition can lead to deeper connections.

[00:03:00] - Ella talks about her experience with slowing down and being more present during intimacy, emphasizing the importance of taking time.

[00:05:00] - Discussion on how intuitive touch has helped Ella's relationship, particularly with her partner, and how it has made their connection stronger.

[00:06:00] - Lisa reflects on her experience with intuitive touch, particularly when working with men, and how it has improved her ability to be present and more connected.

[00:08:00] - Jess shares her experience with a woman who had never received a womb massage and how the process helped release years of sexual trauma.

[00:10:00] - The trio discusses how touch can be healing, not just for pleasure but also for emotional release, and the importance of creating a safe space for healing.

[00:12:00] - Jess talks about the impact of being present during touch, paying attention to body cues, and the importance of communication with your partner.

[00:14:00] - Lisa discusses how slowing down and being present has led to more satisfying experiences in her relationships.

[00:16:00] - Closing thoughts on the power of intuitive touch, communication, and presence in creating deep, fulfilling connections.

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🔥RESOURCES AND LINKS MENTIONED🔥

• The Playful Podcast Website: www.theplayfulpodcast.com – For after-hours content, workshops, and community access.

• OMGYes: A platform where women can learn about self-pleasure techniques, mentioned for teaching masturbation techniques.

Transcript

Jess the Playful Domme: 0:12

Welcome to the playful Dom, the Poly Wife and the Virgin Podcast, where we share our most intimate stories, experiences, and details of our love lives, our intimacy lives, our play lives, and giving you the opportunity to gaze in and get a glimpse of what could be possible in your life as well. As we share our stories, our adventures, we weave in tips. tricks and techniques to help build your confidence, boost your courage and give you the opportunity to ask for what you want in your life. Welcome to the podcast. Hello everyone and welcome to the latest episode of the Playful Dom, the Polywife, and the Virgin Podcast where we are three everyday women who come together to share about our amazing adventures and explorations, juicy details, blunders, challenges, and the laughs along the way into intimacy, pleasure, and play. Uh, today we are talking about, ah, the intuitive touch and how amazing It can be whether you're touching a man or touching a woman, whoever it happens to be. And, you know, we've been sitting and talking about what's, what's the difference between, you know, the schools of thought of, you know, those who go and become trained and studied and really understand the body in an anatomical way and, uh, technical way and, um, And also the difference of those who focus more from an intuitive place. And, uh, and I believe that there's, of course, benefits in both. Uh, I'm more in the intuitive camp as is Lisa. And I believe Ella is too. And so we're just kind of Moving through our, our thought processes of, you know, our, our, our approach to the human body and our approach to those who are in front of us, and what we hear as feedback compared to what they've experienced in the past. And I, as Lisa's sharing her thoughts and we'll get there in a second. I think what's coming through for me in this moment is to, for the listener to know that the everyday person can have an enormous impact and touch on someone without having to have gone to years of schooling and training to get a certification to be able to do something that by us being able to Approach in a different way with our partner. We can bring a level of touch and intimacy and connection that they haven't gotten anywhere else and they won't be able to get anywhere else. So opening up the floor, Ella, what are your thoughts?

Ella the Virgin: 3:06

Um, I completely agree with you and what comes to mind is presence and just being in the present moment with your partner. I think that's super, super, super important, not always easy, but really, really important. And we've touched on it many times and it's one of those things I've heard for like two and a half, three years now, and it took me a while to hear it, but it's to slow down. And Jess, you guys say it very well. It's like when you say slow, slow down, slow, go slower. Um, and that's really truly the, um, one of the biggest bits of advice that I've gotten listening to this podcast, because it, it, it makes a difference if you go slow and if you're present, it's, it's a beautiful experience. So it becomes intuitive, I believe. So, um, anyway, those are my initial thoughts right off the top of my head.

Jess the Playful Domme: 3:56

And you've, and you've had the experience firsthand, both of. I mean, doing the couple essential touch with you and your partner and also massage about, you know, what happens when you do go slower and how that's impacted how you touch your partner. And we've touched on this. We've mentioned this on other podcasts that he doesn't even want to touch himself because of how good you're able to touch him. And I mean, you're in your fifties, you've been actually active for. You know, many years, at least 30, 35, whatever it is. So get to that point now in your 50s with a man who's in his 60s and You know, and he's been sexually active for most of his life as well, to be able to bring that kind of experience and, and have the shared experience, right? That it's not just you giving him something that you're, uh, like, it's almost like you have to perform. It's not like that, you know, from what you've shared is that it's this. really connected, shared, intimate experience. And, and he has his own process with you too. And what happens when we learn, you know, even just some of like the basic techniques and to take it from there.

Ella the Virgin: 5:18

Yeah. Yeah. You're, yeah, you're, you're exactly right. It's, it's, it's heightened. Well, it both and we've talked about this both sexually and intimately, as well as my as my personal journey as well. Again, it's been life changing for me so I say intuitive is super important, you know, although, again, I bond to you as a, as a coach. And so it's, it's important to learn as well and just, I don't know what I don't know. So it's been really good both ways for us. So, yeah, I think that's

Jess the Playful Domme: 5:55

Lisa go tell me more.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 5:57

We were talking just before we started recording, because Jess was telling us that she'd had done a warm massage. Can you tell that story again, just relate what it was that you were experiencing, because I, I kind of want to replicate the genesis of that conversation to, to about touch

Jess the Playful Domme: 6:28

the, the whole thing, or a specific part of the,

Lisa the Poly Wife: 6:31

just, you know, you did a womb massage and it was, so basically I'll, I'll tell the part that it was moving to me is that, um, Jess did a womb massage on a woman, um, who'd never had a womb massage before because the only people who'd been, or at least the people who'd been massaging her were men and she had not wanted to have a womb massage by a man. And so she'd heard about Jess and engaged her in a womb massage and had an incredibly moving experience. And a very healing, not just moving, healing, deeply healing experience. And Jess was reflecting about her, um, level of study and knowledge and, um, that she's not a professional. So she's not studied any textbooks or anything. And um, I was, um, saying that for me, I haven't done, I've done one, um, womb massage. So I don't have a lot of practice with that, but I've been with men and done lingam massages. And I do it. I, it comes from an, from a place of, um, intuition and not profound, not education and individualized. And so we were talking about that was what I wanted you to sort of review was your, your experience of, of doing the womb massages.

Jess the Playful Domme: 8:08

Yeah, it's a, you know, it's a delicate balance. Right. Um, so I, I do want to say I have been to workshops and trainings and things like that, but in terms of like going to medical school or going in study or, you know, anatomy or all of that stuff where I, and I, I think that there, basically there's, there's another woman on the island who I respect deeply, who's very, very studied and who I've seen personally. And I was like, you know, I, I, Yeah. I feel like I'm a really safe, um, person to go to from, from what others have said. It's not even just me saying, I feel like I'm safe. It's people telling me like, I feel safe to feedback. Mm-hmm You know, the feedback that I've gotten, that I, that the touch that I give, um, especially to women, uh, is a, is a nurturing touch, is a therapeutic touch. It's a kind touch. It's a, it's a nourishing touch and it doesn't have. That kind of, um, sexual energy that oftentimes can happen when it's a massage and particularly more of a intimate massage experience. Um, and so for this, you know, woman who had. She experienced a lot of sexual abuse and trauma through her childhood and adolescence and was really trying to process a lot of things and showing up and really doing the work. And so for me to be able to be there and, you know, and explain the entire process to her so there was no surprises. I knew exactly where I was going to go every step. If I explained to her, I'd be asking her for permission every step with her body to see how it was and it would take as long. Take our time. And what was supposed to be an hour and a half session turned into two and a half hours. And there were certain areas that I was pressing that I ended up holding for 10 minutes as waves and waves and waves of, of tears and pain and emotion were coming up for her to have it be released. And, you know, and her sitting up multiple times and hugging me and saying, thank you so much for this because she couldn't, she wasn't. She wasn't available for a man to touch her because of how much abuse she had experienced even though she you know appreciates men and loves men and she trusts them, but there's still that that piece and So to be able to show up for her in that way and and at the end she was like every man needs to know how to do this and that is something that Ella has said, you know, Lisa has said that like anybody who I've touched has had every man needs to know how to do this. Um, You know, it's kind of like, you know, what, what is it that I'm doing? You know, really, I'm going super, super, super slow, super slow, taking my time. I understand that if we go fast, a woman will dissociate because I dissociate. So I know that if I do, other women do not making an assumption that all women do. But if I can slow down, go really slow and I'm watching her. And that's something too, that I think Lisa and Ella and I all do, whether we do it naturally or we've. taught each other or whatever it is. You're watching the body movement. You're watching the person's reactions. You're watching how they're breathing, how they're not breathing, the, their facial expressions, the tremor and the, um, trembling in their body. They're the energy that's moving through it. Like it is hyper observance and hyper presence. I believe, you know, the lights are on, they're not off. You're looking at the body, you're paying attention to the person, you're staying connected. Like, there were moments, I mean, her womb, when I first started touching her outer labia, they were, um, stiff. And it was like, there was no life to it. And you know, fast forward an hour and a half later, and she wasn't brought to an orgasm. That wasn't like, I, I knew. Very deeply, like, even though pleasure is safe and okay, I knew in myself that's like, like, just keep doing, like, therapeutic touch, just stay there so there doesn't have to be that kind of confusion piece of, oh, I'm getting turned on, but I need this to be healing and, you know, and so for me, that's That's where I stayed, but I could, as I was working on her, I could feel the blood. I could feel her body kind of back online. I could feel the, the pulsing from the veins, like throughout her internally and externally. And, and, and she was experiencing energy shooting down her legs and going out her feet and, you know, all of this stuff. And it was just, it was like, it's almost that she was coming back online and it was fascinating to feel like this. This woman who's beautiful and vibrant and lovely and doing her work and really deep awareness and insightful and very wise for someone in her late 20s. Very wise. Oh my God. Do I wish I had had that? To see, like, we're all shut down. It doesn't matter if a woman is 25, if they're single, married, if they've had children or they haven't, if they're Jewish, Christian, agnostic, spiritual, you know, it, you know, even women who've, like, maybe haven't been sexually assaulted but had childbirth or had an IUD, like, it doesn't matter. Like, every single woman Is locked up to some degree. Maybe some of them just have a few locks. Maybe just one or two, maybe But they can be, those can be really big locks like childbirth, or it can be many locks from being traumatized. And, you know, what we have as an opportunity, I think not only as, as being girlfriends, like if we learned this as girlfriends, and we got to do this with each other. You know, and, and teaching it in a different way. I mean, I think that could be super, super, super healing. So Lisa, your thoughts.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 14:37

Yeah, I, I, there's a lot of healing. There's both sides of it. The part of the conversation that I thought I really wanted to hone in on as well is the fact that the kind of touch you and I are engaging in, you, Obviously not mostly with women, but more than me with women and I with men is your, your touch. It's okay. Let's just talk about your touch on a woman is different than women touching women. Because what I was, what I remarked was that even if I had a female masseuse who had been educated you know, had gone to school and been certified in massage therapy, any kind. Her touch is going to be very different than the kind of intuitive touch that you've done. I think that there, there are rare practitioners who really individualize. Um, the kind of touch they do, right, Ella? Haven't you found

Ella the Virgin: 15:52

I completely agree. I think that's very well said. I can't agree more.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 15:57

Yeah, that and men can learn how to touch intuitively. But I don't know a lot of men of all the men that I've dated in the last five years. which is the only time I've actually paid attention to men paying attention to me. Um, very few are slow lovers. Very few are slow lovers. The majority of men feel like the more friction and the more energy put in results in a bigger.

Ella the Virgin: 16:32

And exactly. Oh my goodness. And again, I'm 55 and I just found one. I didn't even know that this existed. So you're exactly right. It's about just as quick and as hard as you can make it, you know, get in and get out. I'm not sure what they're thinking, but it's Yeah, we need to educate them.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 16:50

Yeah, and, and, or, you know, create, I mean, obviously they're learning online, right? They're learning from talking to each other, they're learning online, right? But so let's create content that educates them in a different way, right? I remember when I was in my 20s being very, very willing to watch porn, and yeah, not so interested in the male dominated. Porn, and I wasn't interested in lesbian porn. I was interested in heterosexual porn, but I always looked for female directors, and there were very, very few back then, my early 30s, maybe two, three, that I could find regularly, like at Blockbuster, wherever they had the little curtains and the videos that you could watch, because we weren't watching them online, and there were a few, and they were lovely, and I remember seeing movies there, there, we did have X rated movies, That were shown in public theaters, these in eighties. Yeah. In New York. You, you could, there were like Henry and June may have had, no, it was, was it Henry and June? No. There. Yeah. Maybe it was had an X rated rated. It was X rated and then it was toned down maybe because there was male frontal nudity. I don't remember, but I remember seeing once or twice a movie in the movie theater that was. So beautifully directed and it was directed by a woman. Love scenes were made, were directed by women. And I was, and that made me realize that there was porn that was directed by women too. So anyway, we can create, we can create the. education for the men, right? I mean, it's, it's, since we started doing the masterclasses, it's, you know, I just, I want to do more. I love doing them. I love, I love the joy on the men's face. Is their, their, their joy at pleasing and their own enjoyment for themselves is really incredibly satisfying. And knowing that they're gonna take that joy out into the world just feels like, why wouldn't we do more of that? You know, spread the love or spread the labia.

Jess the Playful Domme: 19:23

Oh my God. Oh my God.

Ella the Virgin: 19:28

God,

Jess the Playful Domme: 19:32

I can't even, oh, that's great. Well said. That might be Lisa's, uh, tagline.

Ella the Virgin: 19:39

Exactly. Spread the love, spread,

Lisa the Poly Wife: 19:47

spread the labia.

Jess the Playful Domme: 19:48

Mmm.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 19:50

Well, it was funny because I was talking to a friend where, where, or was it you actually, Jess? We're, were we talking about a line of t shirts or something with sayings on them? Maybe it was another, was it you, was it you? Yeah. That can be one of them.

Jess the Playful Domme: 20:05

Oh my god, that's,

Lisa the Poly Wife: 20:10

I don't know who would wear it, but I, I, my, my kinky fuckers would. I'm sure they would.

Jess the Playful Domme: 20:17

Slow down, spread the labia. Yeah. Oh, and, and I wanted to give credit to Orion because Orion was the first person who said it to me. If you think you're going too fast, if you think you're going too slow, slow down. That was what he said to me. And so I wanted to make sure that he

Ella the Virgin: 20:35

was, he was the one who said he was the one.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 20:37

Yes. And I brought it to you guys. I at least that saying, cause he said, I was like, Ooh, isn't this fascinating? Cause he's the first person that I did an OM session with. Oh, he is. Yeah. We did an OM session on our first date. He was like, Oh, have you ever done an OM? And I was like, I wanted to, I've always wanted to do an OM. He's like, okay, let's do it. And he threw together the nest in no time. And that, that was our first date was an OM session. Wow. At 11 o'clock at night after he'd been flying all day. It was, yeah, it was really quite. generous of him, but it was, it was fantastic.

Jess the Playful Domme: 21:12

Yeah. Definitely. Uh, so I guess the, what the word was, um, is attunement, you know, is, is really paying attention to the person and, uh, And there's something about it takes time. I think it didn't happen overnight for me. There was many sessions I was doing, um, especially at the beginning where I was just like, Oh my God, what do I touch next? And where do I go? And how do I, how do I do this thing? And oh shit, I was supposed to do that one first and supposed to, Oh, it would have been better to do that, that one first. And, and any, it's. It just, it just like anything, you can get good at it. It just takes practice. It takes practice and a willingness and an openness and having a, you know, beginner's mind. And that's one of the things I actually really love about being an intuitive person is because people's bodies teach me. I listen. I pay attention to how my hands suddenly start stroking and moving in a different way, and I'm like, Whoa, this is a new stroke. I've never done this before. Oh, okay. So their body is teaching me something new. And so to me, it's like this never ending classroom, but fun, like the most fun you'll ever have in your life is by getting to know yourself. into bed or on the table with your partner and just connecting and bringing each other together. It's the, it's the most fun you'll ever have. And so it can be so satisfying. And to me, it's like, you don't need to go anywhere else. You don't need to look anywhere else. You don't need. Like, you know, have that kind of fun that you share together and that kind of, like, that, that, like, I know your body inside and out, like, I know you so well. And for that other partner to know how well they know you, and then it's just.

Ella the Virgin: 23:22

That's actually, that's a great point, Jess, you know, and something we don't necessarily touch on, but again, if you just hone your skills and be super and have the attunement to your partner. I mean, you don't, they're not going to go anywhere. I mean, my partner gave up his own hand that he's been using for 40 years or 45 years, you know, so that's another really important thing I think to stress is not only the intimacy and the connection, but not going anywhere. Sure. There's no way.

Jess the Playful Domme: 23:55

Yeah and what we have to offer honestly probably isn't on porn because it might be boring to watch because it's gonna be really fucking slow and then they're gonna be like well shit it's like the slow it's like a moving in slow motion and You know, how exciting is that? And you're watching a body rise. Okay. Well, that's okay. I mean, all right. I'm watching a woman's body lift off the table. I don't know, like, maybe that's cool. But to like, but to be in the experience of it, and it has the touch and like the It's like this lived experience you can't see in a video. I mean, you can get technique and, you know, everything. I remember one of my girlfriends years ago, she used to watch gay porn so she could get really good techniques on stroking. Ah, yeah. Good thinking. And oral and everything. So she was looking at it from like a, a very clinical eye, you know, she was just like, okay, you know, very, um, like a student, you know, she wanted to like, You know, she, I'm sure, and she's been with the same man for, oh my god, over a decade now. And yeah, they have a lot, a lot of fun together. I am not interested in watching gay porn. So I'm just like, okay, I'm going to go to the source itself, right? So we can go directly to the source and every cock is different. Every, every, every, every cock is different.

Ella the Virgin: 25:32

Dude, I thought I had it mastered, Jess.

Jess the Playful Domme: 25:35

You have mastered your partner, Scott. And you'll, you'll have such a head start with, you know, if, if you should ever.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 25:48

Yeah. I'm the one who gets to say, well, it's different with every partner, right? You know, different partners enjoy different things. I love. I love this. I love the art of discovery, so I don't, I don't always need new. I'm totally fine with partners that I know, but there's a, the body is huge. If you're going slowly, the body is enormous and to be able to explore and discover you, you'll, you'll, you, you won't run out of body before you run out of time. Really, if you, if you're really, because, you know, we find a fun place to play. And then we go there a lot. But, you know, oh my gosh, I can't tell you how erotic it was to have somebody playing with the inside of my elbow, I, I was. shocked that it was as much of an erogenous zone for me than my pussy, right? Or my breast. And, um, but oh my gosh, when somebody decided to play there and, and it could have been him, it could have been just his energy that was intravenously just sort of revving me up. But it's just fun to find a new place to play. And I think that's the, that's That's just it. The body's our playground and we get to play different ways on different parts of it. And we have, there's an infinite number of combinations. We could never get through all the ways we could play with each other. And I think that we've limited ourselves in our sex education. And. Um, now I enjoy sort of shouting it from the rooftops. I have no problem talking about any of this anywhere. It's not, I, I embarrass people because I'm, I'll, you know, Oh, we're in the supermarket. Oh yeah. When I took this cock and just, you know, I feel like we've got it. I want to normalize sex education and because we would be all so much happier if we were having great sex a lot.

Jess the Playful Domme: 28:12

Yeah, safe, consensual, playful, connected, you know, all of these things that we also didn't know were even an option. And so, you know, it's, I think it's really cool. And to your point, Lisa, it's a never ending unfoldment of new things. Like one of my clients I saw yesterday, I've seen him probably five times. I don't know how I didn't. I currently, I haven't like scratched his balls before or something. So it was like a whole new sensation and he's like, Oh my God, what are you doing? I love that. And then I was doing like a stroke with my thumb along his perineum and he's losing his. And I'm like, Oh, wow. Okay. I guess I haven't done this with him. I don't know how, you know, so I'm like, you know, stroking his perineum. And then I'm like, kind of like taking my thumb and scooping up around the balls while I'm, my other hand is stroking him. And he's just like fucking like, like going bananas, you know, he's just like so hot. And then there happens, by the way, if you happen to have a big mirror that you can put by your bed. Let me tell you about taking things up to the next level, because men are so visual. And if you can get over being looked at in the mirror, and feeling like you have a thousand insecurities and imperfections, and just go with, he wants to see you, and it turns him on to see you. Like, get the biggest fucking mirror that you can, not like the, not like the, the one that goes on the back of the door, get the, get the big ass one that might be a little too uncomfortable for you and just put it in and just see what happens, or, or tell your partner, be like, I want you to find me the biggest mirror that you want, he will jump on that, he will absolutely jump on that, so, um, but Uh, the other thing I was going to say is the woman last night that I was doing the womb massage on, and again, this was like a very therapeutic approach to help release her of sexual abuse and trauma that she had had. So, most of the work that I did with her was all on the outside of her. That's where the majority of the healing Um, it seemed like happened at least for this first experience for her and, um, there was a point where she had wanted me to hold, um, a place where she was feeling pain in her hip while I had I was holding her outer labia, like a certain spot on her outer labia and pressing into her hip at the same time. And then these waves and waves of weeping were coming up and, and like all this stuff that was happening. So to Lisa's point, that there's going to be, sometimes where maybe it's just like super playful and pleasurable and maybe there's sometimes you're like, Oh man, like my hip or, you know, whatever it is. And if your partner can press in on that area and hold while also still, you know, playing with your labia or, you know, whatever it is, I mean, that can be a hugely healing experience, you know? So there's It's just amazing the layers and layers and layers of healing that can happen through intimacy and what we've, uh, like what we've gone through so much of our life not knowing, and then to Lisa's point, once you do know, there's no going back.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 31:34

Yeah, I, I, I, I can't, I, there are lovers who are reaching out to me that I won't go back. I, I, I, I realized that I don't want to have that kind of sex anymore because I, I enjoyed it with them when I was with them, but when I realized that they weren't coachable or they weren't open to. me saying what I wanted. Um, yeah, I don't want to waste my time anymore. I'd rather have no sex than mediocre sex.

Jess the Playful Domme: 32:15

Oh, that, that definitely, absolutely to hold that kind of standard of what you want and how many of us have spent our lives just laying on our back, you know, not being able to see Which again is another reason why I love, if you're ever touching a woman, you know, just give her the opportunity to say yes, like ask for permission, you know, even if she's your lover and even if you've been married for decades, just like say like, Hey, I'd really love to try something new tonight, you know, and I want to practice something um, called. I heard about it on a podcast. Yeah, I heard about it on a podcast and you know, when it comes, you know, and, and, and To say, I mean, like I said, before I even touched her, her back, I asked her, you know, may I touch, may I touch your body? Yes. Thank you. When she turned over, may I touch your breasts? Mm hmm. Yeah. Thank you so much. When I got closer, may I touch your womb? Yes. And then I cupped her womb. Number one thing then cup the womb, put your hands over it and cup the entire thing. And I held it there for a few minutes for her because I could feel, I wanted to wait until I could feel the energy starting to, and there were some really cool energy loops that were happening between her body and my hands. And I could feel it. And it was fascinating, but I asked if I could touch her outer lips. I asked if I could touch her inner lips. Asked if I could touch around the clitoris, I asked if I could touch the introitus, I asked if I could do inner work, you know, and you might, like, if a man feels like he needs to roll his eyes about this part, like, that, to me, is something that says, like, you need to do some really deep work and look at yourself, if If asking a woman for permission is going to be an eye roller for you, and, and also for women, if you start noticing that a man is asking you for permission, know that he's doing it because he respects you, and, and I know sometimes, there was one girl, one of my old roommates, there was a guy who, he, they were making out, so it wasn't a massage. But he would ask her for permission for every single step, but he made it so sexy and hot that, and he was not going to go to the next step until she said yes. And so having that kind of, um, consent and even the, the young sex guru years ago that, um, Lisa and I know, uh, he, he was like, I'm about 105 percent consent, 105%, 95%. Consent is not consent and he wouldn't move forward with stuff. And so that's, again, something that can be really cool about the responsibility that we have during this time, you know? Um, and for me, even with, even when my male clients, even though they come to me for a session, I still ask them if I can touch their body, I still ask, you know, so anyways, final thoughts, Lisa, what stood out for you the most today?

Lisa the Poly Wife: 35:31

I, I really want to celebrate. And Talk more about using our intuition, knowing which guys to date, knowing whether you're, you know, that we, for some, I think that using our intuition is, has helped me become a better lover. And I've always used my intuition for everything else, but it, I just thought I had to learn the techniques of how to do things, study. And I realized that no, that I naturally know my body will tell me what to do and what to do next. And, um, I, I'm, I'm, I'm actually going to a hotel takeover this weekend. And, um, I'm going to a huge event and I'm going to be interested to see how consent is handled at a swingers event because it's totally a swing, which is totally new for me. I'm not going to swing. I'm going with. Bob, my unicorn. And, um, uh, I'm really interested to see how he, he can't, he, he, he has really praised this event and the way they use consent. So I'm excited to see how it's, how it's used in the wild as it were. So my intuition and consent, those are my big takeaways this week.

Jess the Playful Domme: 36:58

Awesome. Ella, how about you?

Ella the Virgin: 36:59

Um, for me, again, it's the being present and just truly just feeling the energy and slowing down. It always comes back to that. So it's just it, I, we cannot say it enough.

Jess the Playful Domme: 37:11

Yeah.

Ella the Virgin: 37:12

Slow down and enjoy.

Jess the Playful Domme: 37:14

I agree with everything you both said, and also the importance of communication. So us being able to communicate what we like and being willing to say, actually, can you pause or, you know, whatever it is. I think that the intuition and presence and communication really leads to deeper connection and intimacy. And I can't wait to hear about the hotel takeover, at least. I'm glad that you get to be our little, you know, spy, explore, gets to go try these different things and come back and tell us. It's Normies, what, what's going on and what we're missing out on with the, or what we can learn and what we can integrate. So thank you so much for doing that. Really appreciate it.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 37:59

I'm looking forward and I'm actually hoping to do a session with Bob and allow people to watch. Sorry about that.

Jess the Playful Domme: 38:11

Do you see things happen when we do that? That's how my workout started was doing a lingam massage in front of a room full of people. So, um,

Lisa the Poly Wife: 38:21

okay.

Jess the Playful Domme: 38:23

You have, have your number ready to give out to people.

Lisa the Poly Wife: 38:27

Oh, I have my cards. So that's a great idea. I'll do that.

Jess the Playful Domme: 38:30

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